thanks everyone, miranda is 13, and very excited! she helped me do the dressing, holding the legs and all that helpful stuff. she also got a biology lesson as to what all the inside stuff is, very interested and not grossed out at all. Next one she asked to do herself. And yes I'm one proud dad for many reasons, her wanting to spend time with me is probably the most inportant. I also am very happy to add another hunter to the ranks, we all need to keep the sport called hunting alive, although I dont like calling hunting a sport, its more of a life skill and lesson I think all people should experience. Its good to know where food comes from.